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giolumi



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Milan Metro Reply with quote

I read you pages about Milano and about the "M" sign variations

I have to correct you.

Italian "M" sign was first used in Milano and not in Rome

It was designed by international designer Bob Noorda (born in Nederland but living in Milan). Bob Noorda designed also Milan's metro graphic who than inspired Massimo Vignelli for the New York's subway graphic.


Some architectural information: Milan first 2 lines was designed by famous modernist architetc Franco Albini, with his wife Franca Helg and Antonio Piva

Milan's metro is considered the biggest social (pubblic) quality architecture in Italy. The functional spaces, innovative materials and modern graphic are mile stones.

Also "Passante Ferroviario" (railway link/suburban railway) was designed by famous architect Mangiarotti.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Milan Metro Reply with quote

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giolumi wrote:
I read you pages about Milano and about the "M" sign variations

I have to correct you.

Italian "M" sign was first used in Milano and not in Rome.

The logos page will be redesigned soon with a logo for every city.

giolumi wrote:
It was designed by international designer Bob Noorda (born in Nederland but living in Milan). Bob Noorda designed also Milan's metro graphic who than inspired Massimo Vignelli for the New York's subway graphic.


Some architectural information: Milan first 2 lines was designed by famous modernist architetc Franco Albini, with his wife Franca Helg and Antonio Piva

Milan's metro is considered the biggest social (pubblic) quality architecture in Italy. The functional spaces, innovative materials and modern graphic are mile stones.

Also "Passante Ferroviario" (railway link/suburban railway) was designed by famous architect Mangiarotti.

Do you have a source for your information?
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giolumi



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A part of the book (260 pages) on Milan underground that I wrote for the university degree, and about 20-30 books from Metropolitana Milanese society you can read the book "The architecture of underground railway stations (Die architektur von u-bahofen)" written by Rauch Jurgen, you will have some information about this, in English and German.

Last week Italian Ministery for Art declared AMENDOLA (MM1) and CAIAZZO (MM2) national monument. Problaly the firts and only underground stations considered as monuments in Italy (they already call them as open museum)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giolumi wrote:
Last week Italian Ministery for Art declared AMENDOLA (MM1) and CAIAZZO (MM2) national monument. Problaly the firts and only underground stations considered as monuments in Italy (they already call them as open museum)

Hmm, Caiazzo looks rather like a dull station to me than like a national monument...
Even more so when compared with the phantastic buildings Milan and Italy have at street level...

Caiazzo:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realy I do not understand why they chose Caiazzo instead of San Babila or Cadorna, probably beacuse is one of the oldest station that will be not modified in the nex few years.

In the picture you see tha station after 40 years of life! Without any kind of restoration of original colour, and without the correct lighting.

But the three main caracteristic are still perfect: the innovatice grafich signal (first in the word built as "strip" long all the platform), the green handrails tha t help the people as the "Ariadne's thread", and the very simply functionality of the station, tipical of the international/modernism style.

Difference between other famous architecture in Italy? This is the problem, too many people in Italy see only building built from 1000BCto 1700AD, but we have many masterpieces built in the 20Th century also!

You cannot find renaissance in the undeground, (as doric columns in Berlin's u-bahn). In Milan we have an undeground built in the correct architectural style of 60s! This is art history, not only emotion!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amendola in the 60s



cadorna perfect functionality



san babila control room (demolished)


official pictures made in 1964



graphic project realised by Bob Noorda



Bob Noorda helped Massimo Vignelli to design New York vary famous Subway's graphic, after the positive experience of Milan's undeground
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giolumi wrote:
In the picture you see tha station after 40 years of life! Without any kind of restoration of original colour, and without the correct lighting.

Preservation of such an original station, I agree, is actually a good thing! At least it is interesting to see in the station what the designer had in mind when creating it.

Better than many stations in Hamburg (where I live), which have been upgraded many times in very cheap and ugly ways, so that today they are cluttered with furniture and equipment from different eras that don't harmonize.

Is it possible that when they declared the two stations as national monuments, their intention was to choose the purest, most typical and/or best preserved stations?

Thanks for the interesting pics.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are different reasons:

amendola MM1 is the only one station of the first two line (built togheter in the 60s) that was partially designeg by another architect: Arrigo Arrigoni.


Arrigo Arrigoni was the "official" architect of all Milan public building from 60s to 70s. He designed the roof of the stations with triangular windows. All the orther part of the station was designed by Franco Albini, Helg (his wife), and Piva architects.

Caiazzo station has all the carateristics of the tipical MM2 station, but it was already modified, as Amendola, expecially the Bob Noorda's graphic signal.

Probably they choose Caiazzo because they want to refurbhis Centrale, Garibaldi, Loreto stations. Then Cadorna was refurbished last year and S. Ambrogio will be modified whit the construction of the new MM4 that will start next month.
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